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BIS · PALADIN

Retribution Paladin BiS in WoW Forever

The gear for a level 60 Retribution Paladin before raids (pre-BiS), slot by slot with where each piece comes from, plus a plan of which dungeons to run to get it. Click a slot to try other pieces; hover any item to see its tooltip. Strength melee: weapon damage first, then Strength, hit and crit.

Level 60 pre-BiS: the best gear before raids, calculated from items with a known source in Forever (level 60 dungeons, quests and professions). Pieces the client still ships encrypted carry Classic numbers and are marked.

General

Armor
3,788

Attributes

Strength
+200
Agility
+70
Stamina
+114
Intellect
+4
Spirit
+10

Melee and ranged

Attack Power
+110
Hit
+79
Critical Strike
+112

Defense

Parry
+15

The gear above and its enchants, on a level 60 Paladin. No buffs, no talents: only what the gear adds.

How to get it

0 of 16 collected

The pieces on the doll, grouped by where they come from. Tick the ones you already have: they are saved in your browser.

Upper Blackrock Spire · 4 to go

Blackrock Depths · 2 to go

Dire Maul - North · 2 to go

Stratholme · 1 to go

Lower Blackrock Spire · 1 to go

Maraudon · 1 to go

Excavation Site: Wetlands · 1 to go

Blacksmithing · 3 to go

Enchanting · 1 to go

My gear: is this an upgrade?

Put what you're wearing on the doll (click a slot and pick the piece) and save it. From then on, every item on the site tells you whether it's an upgrade and by how much.

Points are the piece's stats times your role's weights, the same ones the BiS uses. It's a gearing aid, not a simulation. Your gear is saved only in this browser.

Head

  1. 1Lionheart Helm Plate · Level 56Blacksmithing (295)801240104
  2. 2Helm of the Executioner Plate · Level 58Baron Rivendare, Stratholme
  3. 3Stalwart Helm Plate · Level 56Blacksmithing (295)128010420
  4. 4Helm of Valor Plate · Level 57Darkmaster Gandling, Scholomance
  5. 5Ornate Mithril Helm Plate · Level 44Blacksmithing (215)162
  6. 6Golem Skull Helm Plate · Level 51Magmus, Blackrock Depths
  7. 7Lightforge Helm Plate · Level 57Darkmaster Gandling, Scholomance
  8. 8Imperial Plate Helm Plate · Level 54Blacksmithing (265)342

Neck

  1. 1Imperial Jewel Level 55Emperor Dagran Thaurissan, Blackrock Depths
  2. 2Emberfury Talisman Level 56Pyroguard Emberseer, Upper Blackrock Spire
  3. 3Mark of the Marsh Level 28Drops in the Excavation Site: Wetlands, Excavation Site: Wetlands
  4. 4Evil Eye Pendant Level 57Immol'thar, Dire Maul - West
  5. 5Ghostshard Talisman Level 30Azshir the Sleepless, Scarlet Monastery (Graveyard)33.93% in Classic
  6. 6Talisman of Evasion Level 55War Master Voone, Lower Blackrock Spire
  7. 7Cerulean Talisman of the Tiger Level 27World drop
  8. 8Greenstone Talisman of Power Level 30World drop

Shoulders

  1. 1Shoulderplates of Dread Plate · Level 50Blacksmithing (225)10
  2. 2Spaulders of Valor Plate · Level 55Warchief Rend Blackhand, Upper Blackrock Spire
  3. 3Officer's Pauldrons Plate · Level 42Blacksmithing (205)202648
  4. 4Bile-etched Spaulders Plate · Level 57Immol'thar, Dire Maul - West
  5. 5Bulky Iron Spaulders Plate · Level 55Trash mobs, Dire Maul - EastGuard Mol'dar, Dire Maul - North
  6. 6Wailing Nightbane Pauldrons Plate · Level 52The Unforgiven, Stratholme
  7. 7Lightforge Spaulders Plate · Level 55The Beast, Upper Blackrock Spire
  8. 8Slamshot Shoulders Plate · Level 55Highlord Omokk, Lower Blackrock Spire

Back

  1. 1Cape of the Black Baron Cloth · Level 58Baron Rivendare, Stratholme
  2. 2Chromatic Cloak Cloth · Level 57Leatherworking (295)3012303058
  3. 3Stoneskin Gargoyle Cape Cloth · Level 56Stonespine, Stratholme
  4. 4Blackveil Cape Cloth · Level 48High Interrogator Gerstahn, Blackrock Depths
  5. 5Phantasmal Cloak Cloth · Level 57Jandice Barov, Scholomance
  6. 6Shadewood Cloak Cloth · Level 54Alzzin the Wildshaper, Dire Maul - East
  7. 7Mastercrafted Shifting Cloak Cloth · Level 57Leatherworking (295)30124848
  8. 8Shifting Cloak Cloth · Level 57Leatherworking (295)30124848

Chest

  1. 1Breastplate of Valor Plate · Level 58General Drakkisath, Upper Blackrock Spire
  2. 2Skul's Cold Embrace Plate · Level 54Skul, Stratholme
  3. 3Carapace of Anub'shiah Plate · Level 50Ring of Law: Anub'shiah, Blackrock Depths
  4. 4Imperial Plate Chest Plate · Level 55Blacksmithing (270)402
  5. 5Blessed Plate Chest Plate · Level 56Blacksmithing (275)362
  6. 6Kromcrush's Chestplate Plate · Level 57Captain Kromcrush, Dire Maul - North
  7. 7Enchanted Thorium Breastplate Plate · Level 58Blacksmithing (295)8244422
  8. 8Lightforge Breastplate Plate · Level 58General Drakkisath, Upper Blackrock Spire

Wrists

  1. 1Battleborn Armbraces Plate · Level 58Warchief Rend Blackhand, Upper Blackrock Spire
  2. 2Vambraces of the Sadist Plate · Level 54Timmy the Cruel, Stratholme
  3. 3Gordok Bracers of Power Plate · Level 58Tribute, Dire Maul - North
  4. 4Black Steel Bindings Plate · Level 52Dark Coffer, Blackrock Depths
  5. 5Officer's Wristguards Plate · Level 45Blacksmithing (225)162646
  6. 6Fel Hardened Bracers Plate · Level 57Lord Hel'nurath, Dire Maul - West
  7. 7Runed Golem Shackles Plate · Level 48Trash mobs, Blackrock Depths
  8. 8Void-Powered Protector's Vambraces Plate · Level 50Engineering (225)1022

Hands

  1. 1Reiver Claws Plate · Level 56Overlord Wyrmthalak, Lower Blackrock Spire
  2. 2Officer's Gloves Plate · Level 50Blacksmithing (230)844
  3. 3Gloves of the Dawn Plate · Level 56Blacksmithing (295)210
  4. 4Fists of Phalanx Plate · Level 51Phalanx, Blackrock Depths
  5. 5Death Grips Plate · Level 57Magistrate Barthilas, Stratholme
  6. 6Gauntlets of Valor Plate · Level 54Ramstein the Gorger, Stratholme
  7. 7Stronghold Gauntlets Plate · Level 57Blacksmithing (295)15201044
  8. 8Boneclenched Gauntlets Plate · Level 57Ras Frostwhisper, Scholomance

Waist

  1. 1Brigam Girdle Plate · Level 58General Drakkisath, Upper Blackrock Spire
  2. 2Officer's Waistguard Plate · Level 50Blacksmithing (245)2446610
  3. 3Girdle of the Dawn Plate · Level 53Blacksmithing (260)86
  4. 4Belt of Valor Plate · Level 53Trash mobs, Lower Blackrock SpireTrash mobs, Stratholme
  5. 5Handcrafted Mastersmith Girdle Plate · Level 58Goraluk Anvilcrack, Upper Blackrock Spire
  6. 6Atal'alarion's Tusk Ring Plate · Level 46Atal'alarion, Sunken Temple
  7. 7Elemental Plate Girdle Plate · Level 56Tribute, Dire Maul - North
  8. 8Rainbow Girdle Plate · Level 53Hearthsinger Forresten, Stratholme

Legs

  1. 1Titanic Leggings Plate · Level 55Blacksmithing (295)1220102
  2. 2Eldritch Reinforced Legplates Plate · Level 57Prince Tortheldrin, Dire Maul - West
  3. 3Legplates of Valor Plate · Level 56Baron Rivendare, Stratholme
  4. 4Champion's Legplates Plate · Level 56Blacksmithing (295)1220102
  5. 5Handcrafted Mastersmith Leggings Plate · Level 55Goraluk Anvilcrack, Upper Blackrock Spire
  6. 6Lavacrest Leggings Plate · Level 53Bael'Gar, Blackrock Depths
  7. 7Lightforge Legplates Plate · Level 56Baron Rivendare, Stratholme
  8. 8Enchanted Thorium Leggings Plate · Level 58Blacksmithing (295)102062

Feet

  1. 1Battlechaser's Greaves Plate · Level 50Trash mobs, Blackrock Depths
  2. 2Officer's Sabatons Plate · Level 47Blacksmithing (235)2034464
  3. 3Clutchlord's Stompers Plate · Level 53Blacksmithing (270)953
  4. 4Ribsteel Footguards Plate · Level 56Urok Doomhowl, Lower Blackrock Spire
  5. 5Goregasher Stompers Plate · Level 53Blacksmithing (270)953
  6. 6Officer's Boots Plate · Level 40Blacksmithing (180)444
  7. 7Grimy Metal Boots Plate · Level 58King Gordok, Dire Maul - North
  8. 8Entrenching Boots Plate · Level 50Ring of Law: Grizzle, Blackrock Depths

Finger

  1. 1Painweaver Band Level 58General Drakkisath, Upper Blackrock Spire
  2. 2Blackstone Ring Level 49Princess Theradras, Maraudon
  3. 3Tarnished Elven Ring Level 56Tribute, Dire Maul - North
  4. 4Band of the Ogre King Level 58King Gordok, Dire Maul - North
  5. 5Magma Forged Band Level 52Dark Coffer, Blackrock Depths
  6. 6Band of Vigor Level 53Lethtendris, Dire Maul - East
  7. 7Innervating Band Level 54Trash mobs, Scholomance
  8. 8Wyvern Heart Band Level 29Heartrazor, rare in Not checked in game

Trinket

  1. 1Counterattack Lodestone Level 58Tribute, Dire Maul - North
  2. 2Frozen Heart of the Mountain Level 50Enchanting (260)3
  3. 3Hand of Justice Level 53Emperor Dagran Thaurissan, Blackrock Depths
  4. 4Molten Heart of the Mountain Level 50Enchanting (260)3
  5. 5Smoking Heart of the Mountain Level 50Enchanting (260)3

Main hand

  1. 1Treant's Bane Axe · Level 58Tribute, Dire Maul - North
  2. 2Legionite Glaive Polearm · Level 58Blacksmithing (295)158104
  3. 3Desecration Sword · Level 58Blacksmithing (290)402168224
  4. 4Barbarous Blade Sword · Level 58King Gordok, Dire Maul - North
  5. 5Runeblade of Baron Rivendare Sword · Level 58Baron Rivendare, Stratholme
  6. 6Blackblade of Shahram Sword · Level 58General Drakkisath, Upper Blackrock Spire
  7. 7Finely-Enchanted Battlehammer Mace · Level 55Blacksmithing (280)206244
  8. 8Arcanite Reaper Axe · Level 58Blacksmithing (295)2062

Ranged / relic

  1. 1Excavated Dagger Level 28Enemies in Excavation Site: Wetlands

Enchants

  1. 1Strength +5Neck · Enchant Necklace - StrengthEnchanting (200)
  2. 2+5 AgilityBack · Enchant Cloak - AgilityEnchanting (295)
  3. 3All Stats +4Chest · Enchant Chest - Greater StatsEnchanting (295)
  4. 4Strength +9Wrists · Enchant Bracer - Superior StrengthEnchanting (290)
  5. 5Strength +15Hands · Enchant Gloves - Superior StrengthEnchanting (295)
  6. 6Agility +7Feet · Enchant Boots - Greater AgilityEnchanting (290)
  7. 7Strength +25Main hand · Enchant 2H Weapon - StrengthEnchanting (270)

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Enchants: the one that adds the most to each piece with Enchanting maxed, from the ones in the client.

Retribution talents

Level 60 builds (51 points) for this role. Change it however you like in the calculator below and save it or share the link.

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Versus Classic

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Holy

18

Protection

0

Retribution

33
Required level
60 · 55 with the Legacy perk Talented
Points
51 / 51 · 0 left
18 / 0 / 33

Builds

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Data from Wowhead's calculator (game client, September 24). Values may change between patches. Classic comparison: Classic Era 1.15.9 client data via wago.tools.

How it is worked out

We calculate the level 60 pre-BiS ourselves: in each slot, among the items your class can wear whose source we know in Forever (level 60 dungeons, quests, professions), the one that adds the most points with your role's weights wins. No raid loot and nothing above item level 63. Items with no known source are not recommended.

"While leveling" (20, 30, 40 and 50) does the same with what you can get at that level.

Many items still use their Classic numbers until the game launches: we'll review it at launch. The weights, below: one point of the stat is worth its number. A simple rule in plain sight, not a simulator.

Role weights: Melee (strength)

  • weapon damage per second7
  • Hit1.2
  • Strength1
  • Critical Strike1
  • Agility0.7
  • Attack Power0.5
  • Physical Damage0.5
  • Stamina0.25
  • armor0.005

Data from game client 1.60.1.70888, updated 11 Nov 2026.

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